JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Battle Tendency (10-26) Discussion

MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

SPOILERS FOR PART TWO!!

I finished all 4 parts of JoJo a few days back, and my God it feels over-whelming. I'm gonna start Part 5 this month, and knowing that there's gonna be no JoJo after July is a bit depressing. So I thought it'd be fun to discuss the part which, according to a lot of people, got them into JoJo: Battle Tendency(cue the opening). Battle Tendency is from episode 10 to episode 26 in the first season.

For me, personally, Part 2 is a one-man show. If not for Joseph Joestar, this would have been a lot less enjoyable. He carries the entire story with his weird, quirky, off-beat and absurd personality. He's definitely a lot different from Jonathan, which I think Araki wanted to establish firmly. He's a trickster, and is all about survival and doesn't shy away from using under-handed tactics. He's also cunning, which is something not really seen in shounen manga protagonists. And Tomokazu Sugita's performance as Joseph is my favourite performance in the entire series. And he manages to make it different from Gintoki, even though it can come across as pretty similar. 
As far as Caesar is concerned, I think Araki made him out to be a better character than Will, who's sort of introduced and immediately killed. We actually see Caesar and JoJo clashing at first, with their opposing personalities, and slowly developing into friends. And when he dies, we actually see shades of how Araki treats death: brutal, sudden and unfulfilling. It can be seen throughout later parts. And also, no deus ex machina, which is also something I loved(and especially in Stardust Crusaders, but more on that later).

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The Pillar Men are fine villains. They are menacing, and they are established to be powerful villains on the go(definitely more powerful than Dio), especially when they rub against that one soldier and half of his body disappears. But they definitely aren't as nuanced as Dio, nor do they feel as personal. Which is to say that Part One is as much Dio's story as it is Jonathan's. More so, even. But I really like the Pillar Men's theme. It's incredibly badass, and the soundtrack itself is a lot, lot better in this part.
Other characters are fine. Speedwagon is the same over-expository and I'm-gonna-describe-what's-happening-on-screen guy, and Lisa Lisa could have definitely done more after how they built her up, but I really liked Straizo(although he's a Nazi ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).
The plot isn't any different from part one to be honest, it's just the execution, and the way in which Araki made sure he improved every single aspect of Part One(except the villain), and the fact that it's a non-stop total blast from start to finish(albeit at a pace that's slower than Part One), with moments of total insanity from time to time, makes it extremely entertaining, although Joseph and Caesar are the only noteworthy characters.
The animation is still nothing but a lot of still-frames, but the art is very, very detailed so that makes sure I have enough attention, and also it's a lot more colourful in this part with weird intermixing happening. The soundtrack is a lot better, and the voice acting is great. 
The visuals in the OP are fantastic, but the song itself was something that took some time for me to get used to. I still loved it, just not as much as Sono Chi no Sadame.

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Sindar
Zweilt

That was an awesome arc =) Joseph is great for sure, but the enemies are as well. This arc sort of set the standard for the JoJo poses and all those ゴゴゴ menacing moments. Nazi robot with a gun in his stomach, a vampire eating people by walking through them, a fist turning into a carnivorous squirrel, there are just too many fun moments =) 

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(11-11-2018, 04:40 AM)Sindar Wrote: That was an awesome arc =) Joseph is great for sure, but the enemies are as well. This arc sort of set the standard for the JoJo poses and all those ゴゴゴ menacing moments. Nazi robot with a gun in his stomach, a vampire eating people by walking through them, a fist turning into a carnivorous squirrel, there are just too many fun moments =) 

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The Pillar Men are menacing, but I didn't really think they were as memorable as Dio, though their theme was awesome. 
As for the poses, I didn't really notice them until Polnareff was on-screen and retrospectively realised that there were a lot in Part 2 as well. 
Yeah, and chariot racing on vampire horses, I mean, this is definitely Phantom Blood on acid.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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Sindar
Zweilt

(11-11-2018, 04:30 PM)MadaraUchiha Wrote: The Pillar Men are menacing, but I didn't really think they were as memorable as Dio, though their theme was awesome. 
As for the poses, I didn't really notice them until Polnareff was on-screen and retrospectively realised that there were a lot in Part 2 as well. 
Yeah, and chariot racing on vampire horses, I mean, this is definitely Phantom Blood on acid.

Dio has personality, that is a rarity for a jojo villain =)  The pilar men were just ridiculous enough to leave an impression. And the final fight, with volcano explosion and all the rest of it, that was something xD I won't say this arc is better than the next one, both are great in their own way. As far as I know, this one was the last arc where JoJo wasn't episodic. I like those longer plot lines together with the jojo drama.

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(11-12-2018, 02:38 AM)Sindar Wrote: Dio has personality, that is a rarity for a jojo villain =)  The pilar men were just ridiculous enough to leave an impression. And the final fight, with volcano explosion and all the rest of it, that was something xD I won't say this arc is better than the next one, both are great in their own way. As far as I know, this one was the last arc where JoJo wasn't episodic. I like those longer plot lines together with the jojo drama.

Yeah, like that's true, they are not forgettable, but so far, they are definitely no Dio or my favourite villain so far, Kira Yoshikage.
To be honest, I liked Stardust more(and Diamond the most). I don't mind episodic stories, and I feel like Araki started peaking during Stardust Crusaders season 2, because he was able to juggle all those characters really well, with some excellent stand battles. 
However, I still liked this part, especially considering how well this part has aged, being three decades old, and how different this part is compared to its contemporaries.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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Sindar
Zweilt

(11-12-2018, 11:27 PM)MadaraUchiha Wrote: Yeah, like that's true, they are not forgettable, but so far, they are definitely no Dio or my favourite villain so far, Kira Yoshikage.
To be honest, I liked Stardust more(and Diamond the most). I don't mind episodic stories, and I feel like Araki started peaking during Stardust Crusaders season 2, because he was able to juggle all those characters really well, with some excellent stand battles. 
However, I still liked this part, especially considering how well this part has aged, being three decades old, and how different this part is compared to its contemporaries.

Never got to see Kira T_T Should pick JoJo back up, probably. 

Dio is great, no question =) That last fight between Dio and Jotaro was on fire : D There were lots of great moments in that arc, and this one was one of them for sure.

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(11-18-2018, 03:17 AM)Sindar Wrote: Never got to see Kira T_T Should pick JoJo back up, probably. 

Dio is great, no question =) That last fight between Dio and Jotaro was on fire : D There were lots of great moments in that arc, and this one was one of them for sure.


You should. Part 4 is great in terms of everything, although make sure you watch the blu-ray version, because the TV version has really really noticeable drop in quality. I watched the blu-ray version though. And like it was great in terms of music, character, art, colours, everything. Also it's the first time in anime I've seen a living, breathing town.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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Demon_skeith
Gotei

Joseph is indeed great, from part 2 and especially part 3. I'm following the toonami run of Part 4 but I can't wait to reach part 5.

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(11-18-2018, 06:22 PM)Demon_skeith Wrote: Joseph is indeed great, from part 2 and especially part 3. I'm following the toonami run of Part 4 but I can't wait to reach part 5.


Part 4 is easily the best in my opinion so I hope you have a great time. I'm gonna start Part 5 at the end of this month. I'm already seeing lots of meme videos in Youtube.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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