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SecretWish
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(03-03-2018, 06:52 PM)TechnicalSuwako Wrote: What's easy or not depends on what you're used to, there's no factual answer for that.
I've used Linux far longer and far more than Windows, so Linux is easier for me.
Another person might find Linux harder than Windows simply because they've used Windows for many years before even hearing about Linux being a thing.

And no, the reason why Windows is popular isn't because of the difficulty level, it's because it has been pushed through everybody's troats for many decades, making most people believe it's the only OS in existence (which can be seen today with iOS and Android too on the mobile market; most people are unaware of the fact that alternatives exist).
And by the time they get to know alternative OSs, it's far too late any way, because users already have the apps they rely on, they already know the first OS inside out, etc.

Microsoft is a company with way too much money, which allows them to gain global influence, which leads them to forcign all PC manufacturers except for Apple to pre-install Windows on consumer PCs, of course with some extra bloatware because that's better for the profit of both Microsoft and the PC manufacturers.

Linux on the other hand is entirely operated by communities of individuals, with no company behind it (Ubuntu is owned by Canonical, RHEL is owned by Red Hat, and OpenSUSE is owned by Novell, but those are the only 3 exceptions out of the thousands of options), so it's way harder to even advertise a Linux-based OS (unless you're Google, but I don't think Chrome OS and Android should count as actual Linux distro's, since both fail to even follow the most basic principles of Linux).

By the way, here's my own summary on today's mobile market I've made some time ago:
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To translate some things:
メインストリームワールド = mainstream universe.
パラレルワールド = parallel universe.

アップデートはとても遅すぎだ! = Updates are too slow!
iOSに切り替える! = I'll switch to iOS.

カスタマイズは無理だ! = Customising is impossible!
Androidに切り替える! = I'll switch to Android.

you know a lot about many things and here i don't get half of what you are saying. that image is about you switching between iOS and Android?

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テクニカル諏訪子
Tenshi

(03-03-2018, 07:12 PM)yaoifangirl Wrote: you know a lot about many things and here i don't get half of what you are saying. that image is about you switching between iOS and Android?

No, the whole point is to show that despite so many mobile operating systems are being around, the mainstream folks only seem to choose between Android and iOS, because they think that's all what exists.

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SecretWish
Rouge pirate

(03-04-2018, 05:18 PM)TechnicalSuwako Wrote: No, the whole point is to show that despite so many mobile operating systems are being around, the mainstream folks only seem to choose between Android and iOS, because they think that's all what exists.

isn't that because people find them easy to use with lots of apps to install? i use an andoroid mobile phone too

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Star_Of_Hope
Akatsuki

I recognize windows, Android, Apple symbols and that's about it and I have never even glimpsed at the symbols

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テクニカル諏訪子
Tenshi

(03-04-2018, 07:45 PM)yaoifangirl Wrote: isn't that because people find them easy to use with lots of apps to install? i use an andoroid mobile phone too

As I already said (and proved), there is no absolute rule to what is easy to use and what is not.
However, there are indeed far more apps for Android and iOS, but be aware that the mobile space is different in that aspect to the PC space.

On the PC, you're free to install apps from outside the official sources, macOS and Linux have a couple of compatibility layers available for Windows apps (or virtual machines if wanted, or even dual/triple boot options if really wanted), and more recent technologies finally make an attempt to make a universal way to develop apps for all systems rather than just the one developers target at that moment.

Mobile is a bit different, since Apple and Google force developers to publish stuff only through their own digital shop, which takes away lots of freedoms from both the developers and consumers, and since you can earn money through these shops while Apple and Google have their share too for each sold app, mobile app developers have become far more greedy than desktop app developers are, and as a result never attempt to create apps for any other mobile platform because less users = less money.
And for that reason, consumers are less likely to buy a phone with a different OS, because developers don't bother to bring apps to other platforms, despite many technologies nowadays that actually allow them to do so.

But maybe history will repeat itself again, and we'll get a mobile counterpart of Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds?
Who knows?

ケロケロ。

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SecretWish
Rouge pirate

(03-05-2018, 12:17 AM)TechnicalSuwako Wrote: As I already said (and proved), there is no absolute rule to what is easy to use and what is not.
However, there are indeed far more apps for Android and iOS, but be aware that the mobile space is different in that aspect to the PC space.

On the PC, you're free to install apps from outside the official sources, macOS and Linux have a couple of compatibility layers available for Windows apps (or virtual machines if wanted, or even dual/triple boot options if really wanted), and more recent technologies finally make an attempt to make a universal way to develop apps for all systems rather than just the one developers target at that moment.

Mobile is a bit different, since Apple and Google force developers to publish stuff only through their own digital shop, which takes away lots of freedoms from both the developers and consumers, and since you can earn money through these shops while Apple and Google have their share too for each sold app, mobile app developers have become far more greedy than desktop app developers are, and as a result never attempt to create apps for any other mobile platform because less users = less money.
And for that reason, consumers are less likely to buy a phone with a different OS, because developers don't bother to bring apps to other platforms, despite many technologies nowadays that actually allow them to do so.

But maybe history will repeat itself again, and we'll get a mobile counterpart of Richard Stallman and Linus Torvalds?
Who knows?

when i learned that linux don't have many security loopholes like windows, i thought of giving it a try but my friends said it's difficult to use and you should have some computer knowledge to handle it so i dropped that idea and believed that anything other than windows is difficult to use. people like you who are into computers might not get what's difficult but normal folks would clearly see the difference

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テクニカル諏訪子
Tenshi

(03-05-2018, 01:18 PM)yaoifangirl Wrote: when i learned that linux don't have many security loopholes like windows, i thought of giving it a try but my friends said it's difficult to use and you should have some computer knowledge to handle it so i dropped that idea and believed that anything other than windows is difficult to use. people like you who are into computers might not get what's difficult but normal folks would clearly see the difference

That's one of the ancient believes actually.
Yes, there are Linux distributions that require a lot of computer knowledge, but there are other Linux distributions like Ubuntu or Linux Mint that don't.
On multiple occasions, people reached out to me to install Linux Mint on their laptops, and they were really happy with it.
And those people are no tech savvy people, they're actually the kind of people who wouldn't even know what a "browser" means for example.

There are still people out there that believe that Linux is only text-based, and that you can't play any games on it at all.
By looking at some of my more recent YouTube videos (showing my current web app development and any of the Touhou games), you can clearly see how wrong they are.

About security holes, that too isn't always true.
It's true that Linux has fewer security issues than Windows has, but it's still far from perfect, with people finding 15 year old security leaks that are severe.
The positive thing is that since almost everything that runs on Linux is open source (including the OS and kernel itself), holes like these are being patched at the speed of light.
The negative thing is that despite that, ancient holes are still being found today occasionally, showing that not much care is being put in that case.

If security is everything to you, you would be better off trying FreeBSD instead, security of BSD is far superior compared to Linux, but fewer apps run on it, and maintaining the system itself can be a bit more difficult too (often requires more steps, etc.).

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SecretWish
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(03-05-2018, 02:25 PM)TechnicalSuwako Wrote: That's one of the ancient believes actually.
Yes, there are Linux distributions that require a lot of computer knowledge, but there are other Linux distributions like Ubuntu or Linux Mint that don't.
On multiple occasions, people reached out to me to install Linux Mint on their laptops, and they were really happy with it.
And those people are no tech savvy people, they're actually the kind of people who wouldn't even know what a "browser" means for example.

There are still people out there that believe that Linux is only text-based, and that you can't play any games on it at all.
By looking at some of my more recent YouTube videos (showing my current web app development and any of the Touhou games), you can clearly see how wrong they are.

About security holes, that too isn't always true.
It's true that Linux has fewer security issues than Windows has, but it's still far from perfect, with people finding 15 year old security leaks that are severe.
The positive thing is that since almost everything that runs on Linux is open source (including the OS and kernel itself), holes like these are being patched at the speed of light.
The negative thing is that despite that, ancient holes are still being found today occasionally, showing that not much care is being put in that case.

If security is everything to you, you would be better off trying FreeBSD instead, security of BSD is far superior compared to Linux, but fewer apps run on it, and maintaining the system itself can be a bit more difficult too (often requires more steps, etc.).

you could say that i am still stuck in ancient beliefs. i don't want my life to be displayed for everyone because of my webcam. i have heard stories about how some people were recorded like that. i am careful but afraid too

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