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Sindar
Retired Staff

(05-01-2018, 01:55 PM)Star_Of_Hope Wrote: Just a friendly reminder that, links to other forums is not allowed in AMF. Thank you for your understanding.

So, when I am discussing news that are posted on other forums, should I move the conversation to the place other than AMF? To another forum, that allows links?

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(05-01-2018, 09:07 PM)Sindar Wrote: So, when I am discussing news that are posted on other forums, should I move the conversation to the place other than AMF? To another forum, that allows links?


Well, forums don't necessarily reveal news, they probably have a source from another website. With the exception of maybe 4chan or reddit or MAL. Which aren't forums. And, all these are allowed here. I think. However in this case, rest assured, there's probably none.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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Star_Of_Hope
Akatsuki

(05-01-2018, 09:07 PM)Sindar Wrote: So, when I am discussing news that are posted on other forums, should I move the conversation to the place other than AMF? To another forum, that allows links?
Let me ask you this then, how many forums would allow links to other forums?
If your answer is at least half of the forums, then we will think about it

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Nameless
Rouge pirate

(05-01-2018, 10:27 PM)Star_Of_Hope Wrote: Let me ask you this then, how many forums would allow links to other forums?
If your answer is at least half of the forums, then we will think about it

They don't show competitive forums links. Other links are fine to post. News links are good

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Sindar
Retired Staff

(05-01-2018, 10:27 PM)Star_Of_Hope Wrote: Let me ask you this then, how many forums would allow links to other forums?
If your answer is at least half of the forums, then we will think about it

AMF is the only forum I visit that doesn't. Also, normally I would stop visiting a website as soon as I find that it has rules that I find ridiculous. I am sure lots of people think the same way, but instead of saying it they just leave.

(05-01-2018, 10:07 PM)MadaraUchiha Wrote: Well, forums don't necessarily reveal news, they probably have a source from another website. With the exception of maybe 4chan or reddit or MAL. Which aren't forums. And, all these are allowed here. I think. However in this case, rest assured, there's probably none.

That is not the point though. Let me talk as a user, rather than as a (former) team member for a second. When I visit a forum I 1) I don't read the rules, assuming that my common sense is enough 2) I don't want to reminded of rules or being told what to do, unless I did something stupid or obviously wrong. For example, I have enough sense not to advertise a competing webforum or post inappropriate links, or insult people or spam poor quality threads, etc. I don't need to be told that, it is all obvious. 

So what I am saying is, as far as I see it, I can manage to not be a nuisance for others. And I put effort into doing so. I think so do you and most other sensible people on the web. That is the good part of the story. The bad part of the story is that I expect to be able to do whatever I believe is sensible =) Without reading the rules. If I think there is a good reason to link a competitive webpage I'll link it. And this is how I operate on any forum or website. That is not a question of following or breaking rules (as again, I don't know them), it is a question of being compatible with a place. If I am incompatible, I leave. And I expect most of the people who left this and other forums are doing so because of this same reason. I am not saying all this because I am angry or something. I just think it is important to give this kind of feedback. It is way too easy to be caught up in maintaining a forum and forget why you are doing it. 

So, as a (former) team member I would suggest that we make sure there are as few reasons for people to feel incompatible as possible. A good start would be to avoid even mentioning rules unless there is a really valid and important reason to do so. And I can hardly come up with an example where you have to explain rules to a sensible person.

(This post was last modified: 05-02-2018, 02:38 AM by Sindar.)

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(05-02-2018, 02:11 AM)Sindar Wrote: That is not the point though. Let me talk as a user, rather than as a (former) team member for a second. When I visit a forum I 1) I don't read the rules, assuming that my common sense is enough 2) I don't want to reminded of rules or being told what to do, unless I did something stupid or obviously wrong. For example, I have enough sense not to advertise a competing webforum or post inappropriate links, or insult people or spam poor quality threads, etc. I don't need to be told that, it is all obvious. 

So what I am saying is, as far as I see it, I can manage to not be a nuisance for others. And I put effort into doing so. I think so do you and most other sensible people on the web. That is the good part of the story. The bad part of the story is that I expect to be able to do whatever I believe is sensible =) Without reading the rules. If I think there is a good reason to link a competitive webpage I'll link it. And this is how I operate on any forum or website. That is not a question of following or breaking rules (as again, I don't know them), it is a question of being compatible with a place. If I am incompatible, I leave. And I expect most of the people who left this and other forums are doing so because of this same reason. I am not saying all this because I am angry or something. I just think it is important to give this kind of feedback. It is way too easy to be caught up in maintaining a forum and forget why you are doing it. 

So, as a (former) team member I would suggest that we make sure there are as few reasons for people to feel incompatible as possible. A good start would be to avoid even mentioning rules unless there is a really valid and important reason to do so. And I can hardly come up with an example where you have to explain rules to a sensible person.


I mean, look this may seem like I'm passing the buck on someone else, but I didn't frame the rules. And, I don't have a problem with linking other forums because I don't use anything other than this. I talk to otaku's either through Discord or Whatsapp.
But, I'm not opposed to removing this rule.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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Sindar
Retired Staff

(05-02-2018, 03:15 AM)MadaraUchiha Wrote: I mean, look this may seem like I'm passing the buck on someone else, but I didn't frame the rules. And, I don't have a problem with linking other forums because I don't use anything other than this. I talk to otaku's either through Discord or Whatsapp.
But, I'm not opposed to removing this rule.

No problem, I typed it as a reply to your message, but it was more of a general feedback I thought I should leave =) I think this whole conversation isn't really about rules or whatever, it is more about the attitude we want to have towards the users. I don't care about changing rules, I would prefer if we stop enforcing them without any obvious need.

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Angel
Super Nova

(05-01-2018, 03:09 AM)Sindar Wrote: [Only registered and activated users can see links Click here to register]
there is something about advertising. even yo got that. i understand why they don't want any links here.

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Star_Of_Hope
Akatsuki

(05-02-2018, 02:11 AM)Sindar Wrote: AMF is the only forum I visit that doesn't. Also, normally I would stop visiting a website as soon as I find that it has rules that I find ridiculous. I am sure lots of people think the same way, but instead of saying it they just leave.


That is not the point though. Let me talk as a user, rather than as a (former) team member for a second. When I visit a forum I 1) I don't read the rules, assuming that my common sense is enough 2) I don't want to reminded of rules or being told what to do, unless I did something stupid or obviously wrong. For example, I have enough sense not to advertise a competing webforum or post inappropriate links, or insult people or spam poor quality threads, etc. I don't need to be told that, it is all obvious. 

So what I am saying is, as far as I see it, I can manage to not be a nuisance for others. And I put effort into doing so. I think so do you and most other sensible people on the web. That is the good part of the story. The bad part of the story is that I expect to be able to do whatever I believe is sensible =) Without reading the rules. If I think there is a good reason to link a competitive webpage I'll link it. And this is how I operate on any forum or website. That is not a question of following or breaking rules (as again, I don't know them), it is a question of being compatible with a place. If I am incompatible, I leave. And I expect most of the people who left this and other forums are doing so because of this same reason. I am not saying all this because I am angry or something. I just think it is important to give this kind of feedback. It is way too easy to be caught up in maintaining a forum and forget why you are doing it. 

So, as a (former) team member I would suggest that we make sure there are as few reasons for people to feel incompatible as possible. A good start would be to avoid even mentioning rules unless there is a really valid and important reason to do so. And I can hardly come up with an example where you have to explain rules to a sensible person.
I see. 
We just adopt things whatever are available. We will think about links and so far we didn't say anything about many links like mal links and such. But I just jumped in as i thought secret wish might post some other competitive forum link.

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MadaraUchiha
Akatsuki

(05-02-2018, 05:58 AM)Sindar Wrote: No problem, I typed it as a reply to your message, but it was more of a general feedback I thought I should leave =) I think this whole conversation isn't really about rules or whatever, it is more about the attitude we want to have towards the users. I don't care about changing rules, I would prefer if we stop enforcing them without any obvious need.


Look, I don't believe in having any restrictions. At all. So I get what you are saying. But, it's up to Star and Clara.

" Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognized and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus, being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just."
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