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lorcan Offline Newbie
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02-05-2015, 05:51 AM #1
So in One piece the pirates are amazing and they are really good, but in the real world pirates are awful and they are almost like the scum of the earth, stealing killing and god knows what else. So why do think the creators portrayed them good and no like bad pirates, or how pirates are meant to be?

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02-06-2015, 01:00 AM #2
Pirates are the most free men I guess...they needn't be bad Grin
And it is not that bad pirates don't exist in One Piece...
Bellamy's former crew, Doffy's crew.....and there must be many unknown pirates which are actually "bad" in the universe of One Piece too...

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02-06-2015, 09:31 PM #3
Well, it is not necessary that the pirates in the world of OP are good(see Mansi' post), and, it is also not necessary that the pirates in real world are 'bad'...........That would mean that the thousands of people who illegally download movies and games are 'bad'...........The world is not black and white...........It is grey in colour............
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02-09-2015, 02:22 PM #4
Oda is doing what Kishi did with the Naruto ninja manga, he's making a manga about pirates that don't really act like pirates.

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02-10-2015, 04:17 PM #5
I think it is unfair perching on the creator of OP the notion of "being a pirate is cool", this one already existed in the american side for quite a while before this piece of fiction existed. He didn't invent the good-pirate trope.

I don't know from when it started. pirates used to be menacing and scaring but somehow newer generations have become fascinated with them and the whole idea of living up to sail the seas and find hidden booty. It is quite easy to forget that real pirates still exist and like you say they're awful. In my ignorant mind pirates stopped thriving after the medieval wooden boat times. These incorrect notions don't help things.

I was at a friend party and a woman found a book about pirates for kids and she was almost in tears asking the same thing you do. She couldn't understand how could we be praising people that do barbaric things, people very real from where she came from. I think the stereotypical pirates we picture and the pirates that currently are around are two different things now. We're too busy with our romanticised version of them to realise implications and conveniently letting out the darkest patches.

It is an interesting reflection, if only to be aware of this and even to spread around about this reality. Still, i don't think we should feel guilty for enjoying works like One Piece where the good morals are exalted.

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02-10-2015, 08:04 PM #6
  • [Only registered and activated users can see links Click here to register], author of [Only registered and activated users can see links Click here to register] stated in "One Piece Blue" that Vicky the Viking was a major influence to his admiring of pirates and Vikings.

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